r/pcmasterrace • u/Technical-Sound1158 • May 02 '24

This is why we should NEVER tolerate this invasive "anti cheats" (aka rootkits) on our systems. "lol". News/Article

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u/DBXVStan 29d ago

If you don’t want invasive anti cheat then accept that you’ll play online games with an abundance of cheaters, or don’t play online video games. Your idea of anti cheat doesn’t work. That’s it.

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u/Moper248 29d ago

Couldn't possibly games be automatically started in a built in vm?

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u/DBXVStan 29d ago

That would be an interesting alternative. There’d probably be a big performance and latency hit on the first games that try it, but it would interrupt most current cheat engines

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u/Moper248 29d ago

Imo it'd be better option to try to get done well than invasive anticheats. Kernel anti cheats can't detect physical hacks any better than software and if you manage to create a safe containerized environment for the game then it will solve privacy issues and performance hits caused by the anticheats

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u/DBXVStan 29d ago

You’re probably right. It’s just a thing I can’t see working cause I literally can’t conceptualize how it would all work. Feels like a kind of thing the Battlenet launcher should be replaced with, since you already have to open up a thing to open up a game that in turn opens up other games.

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u/Moper248 29d ago

Oh no I don't mean a separate game vm. I meant that each game would start normally from steam or clicking the exe file or whatever but it's start as a closed environment containerized application. Similar to how snap containers work but more secure

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u/DBXVStan 29d ago

Gotcha I get it now. That’s a thing I deal with now as it is for finance programs, so I don’t see the problem implementing it for games

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u/Moper248 29d ago

Yahh finance programs gotta be safe and you can't make them invasive like that I assume so why games..