r/facepalm • u/Lord_Answer_me_Why • 10d ago
No, not a legend đ¨âđ´âđťâđŽâđŠâ
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u/Itsjustaspicylem0n 6d ago
Well it technically itâs not a legend since a legend is an unauthenticated popular story.
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u/time4tjllen 8d ago
Isnât injecting salt in somebody potentially lethal? Iâm seriously asking, please excuse my stupidity
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u/nelsonwehaveaproblem 18h ago
Not salt, but saline, which is a solution of about 1% sodium chloride in water.
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u/keithgreen70 7d ago
Have you ever heard of saline. If you go to the hospital they are going to give you a whole bag of it.
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u/a-nonie-muz 9d ago
Hey, itâs not like the vax was any better than the saline for the advertised purpose. Just call it the generic version and move along.
Seriously though, all she did was a placebo study without authorization. And without properly tabulating the results. She didnât actually harm anyone because saline doesnât harm.
Losing her license is actually the most appropriate response. Why yâall so bloodthirsty that you want more than that?
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u/AdEducational419 9d ago
Life in prison. She may have killed several people.
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u/keithgreen70 7d ago
How? Hospitals give full bags of saline to every patient.
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u/AdEducational419 6d ago
First off. No. They do not. But more importantly not giving the vaccine may have lead to the death of someone.
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u/keithgreen70 6d ago
Do you work in a hospital? I use to. Everyone gets saline. Second, people that got vaxxed died both from the virus and from the heart problems created by the vax. Just because you got the vax doesn't mean that you are safe from the virus. Vaxes only lesson effects of the virus. They DO NOT provide for full immunity from the virus.
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u/AdEducational419 6d ago
If you had worked in a hospital. Even as the basement janitor you would have known that what you just wrote is horseshit. Impersonating an employee of the healthcare system is also a felony.
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u/Extra-Season-4141 9d ago
Personally Im not an advocate of the covid vaccine for most people but If someone chooses to get it, and the doctor doesnt give it, thats just not OK. She should not be a nurse if she cant do her job.
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u/Crimsonwolf_83 9d ago
What if it was people who werenât choosing to get it but rather choosing not to get fired because they were being mandated to be vaccinated?
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u/Extra-Season-4141 9d ago
In that case it would be a win but most of those people probably willfully intended to get the shot. There was a lot of fear mongering during those times and people also felt pressured to get it. Even if it was a cyanide shot that people wanted to take the nurse should have administered it if it was the patients choice.
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u/ArsenalGun1205 9d ago
Lmao walgreens employee charged me $20 and didn't even give me a shot but she was giving the cards out for free?
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u/OtherMind-22 9d ago
Well, she IS a legend. But so is Ganondorf. So is Sephiroth. Bowser. Eggman.
All of them are kinda legendary in the most destructive way.
Iâd like to imagine she has a secret hideout. Maybe some fancy swords. Definitely a bone to pick with all generic demon lords.
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u/JDeMolay1314 9d ago
This is old news. She is German, was charged with assault, received six months probation and had her nursing license revoked.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/dec/1/german-nurse-antje-t-avoids-jail-after-injecting-t/
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u/Double-Trainer-4353 9d ago
The 'vaccine' seems to be about as effective as saline đ¤ˇ
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u/Crimsonwolf_83 9d ago
Except Saline doesnât give you myocarditis or any other side effects. So technically the saline is more effective since it has less downsides
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u/Lynke524 9d ago
You're supposed to be able to trust your healthcare providers. I don't want a healthcare provider to have any kind of agenda whether left or right leaning. I want an unbiased doctor that will be there to help me no matter my political standings. Why has everything become so political?
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u/CrassTick 9d ago
Because they're people and people are shit.
We need robots doing this not people.
Robots can be trusted to do what they are programmed to do.
Now if only we could trust the programmers.
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u/A_C_Fenderson 9d ago
Unblur her face. If I encounter her in the future, I will request -- no, demand -- a different nurse.
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u/Tbanks135 9d ago
Come on, reddit. I know we worship the COVID vaccine here, but can we fucking admit that noone died from this incident. Otherwise some one upload some data that disagrees with that statement.
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u/JDeMolay1314 9d ago
Nobody died but a lot of people had to get vaccinated again. As this was in Germany rather than the US the vaccine wasn't the political issue that it was here.
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u/CrassTick 9d ago
I doubt anyone could say definitively one way or the other. Someone who she didn't vaccinate may have died from Covid. They might have still died with the vaccine, or maybe noone died. We will never know for sure unless someone bothers to check all the records and there is no desire to do that.
But people definitively died from Covid.
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u/JDeMolay1314 9d ago
Given that this was Germany they had records. Presumably if someone she "vaccinated" had died of Covid before getting a second shot they would have charged her with manslaughter rather than just assault. (She was given six months probation and had her nursing license revoked)
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u/rellikpd 9d ago
Anti vax nurse seems like an oxymoron... "I just don't believe in what we're doing here.... Myself included"
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u/sandersking 9d ago
The irony that it was posted in r/conspiracy as âlegendâ
The nurse was part of a conspiracy but thatâs lost on them.
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u/saiyamannnn 9d ago
Yes, definitely a legend. The vax has been proven to cause myocarditis and massive blood clotting among a bunch of other issues.
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u/WeirdLifeDifficulty 9d ago
Proven? Surely you have reputable citations for such a claim?
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u/saiyamannnn 9d ago
Yeah of course. Why would I make a claim with no proof? The WHO and CDC are now reporting this in the last year, although the âconspiracy theoristâ crowd has been saying this for years whilst these organizations denied it. Food for thought.
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u/CrassTick 9d ago
From your source.
âThe odds of all of these adverse events is still much, much higher when infected with SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19), so getting vaccinated is still by far the safer choice," CEO of biotechnology company Centivax Jacob Glanville, who is not involved in the study, told Forbes.Â
So you were still better of getting the vac than not. According to your article.
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u/WeirdLifeDifficulty 9d ago edited 9d ago
Oh, so you dont have anything reputable... (no citation to the WHO or the CDC...)
Y'know it would make everyone's life better if you didn't do.... this.
Primary sources(preferably ones that are peer reviewed)!
Not.... this random ass "news" site that is unknown in these parts. You have made a claim, and have done less than the minimum to protect it. Sweetie, you need to find help.
[I do love you are going through godaddy, here I thought they were dead]
For real though, you live in a highly populated area! Please try to understand how community and science works before doing.... this! Your deity would look down on you in shame for the harm you are causing!
Edit: Oh, the troll seems to have blocked me. Oh well,
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u/saiyamannnn 9d ago
âa research arm of the World Health Organizationâfound that the COVID-19 vaccines aggravated 13 medical conditions that were considered âadverse events of special interest."
Thatâs an excerpt from the article I sent you
You didnât actually read it
Stop calling me sweetie and stop replying to everything I post, itâs creepy.
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u/WeirdLifeDifficulty 9d ago edited 9d ago
I didn't claim to read it. I asked for reputable citations
Again, direct citations plz.
But ok sweetie, continue living your lie!You are still loved by all of gods children
And I cant in good conscience leave a lost lamb to wander. The light will follow you sweetie
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u/saiyamannnn 9d ago
The direct citations are all in the article you can just read what I sent you
Also Iâd like you to stop calling me sweetie, Iâm not particularly uncomfortable because youâre just an internet weirdo, but you genuinely come across as a creep.
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u/Ihopefullyhelp 9d ago
Wait, havenât we all decided the vax wasnât necessary? It didnât seem to do anything to stop or help so whats the fuss? If she turned out to be wrong iâd understand, but the vax sucked.
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u/baithammer 9d ago
The vaccines worked, fewer people were infected compared to pre-vaccine period - however, it's fairly fast mutation rate and the high level of vaccination refusals are keeping it going.
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u/Crimsonwolf_83 9d ago
All companies making it have admitted it never prevented transmission or infection. This is not a scenario where refusal to take it made it lose its effectiveness. It was only ever effective at symptom reduction and even that isnât universally true.
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u/baithammer 9d ago
False, vaccines by there nature stimulate the bodies immune response, without the drawback of actual infection.
As to transmission, the less people that can be infected, the less risk of transmission.
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u/Crimsonwolf_83 9d ago
Does not lower risk of infection or transmission. Only of symptoms
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u/baithammer 9d ago
Once again false.
The vaccines, just like any other vaccine prevents infection, but isn't 100% guaranteed.
When you have enough people vaccinated, then the pool of people that can carry the infection is reduced and lowers the chances of the infection spreading.
The problem with covid-19 is the combination of vaccination rates being low and the virus being given chances to pickup mutations.
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u/Crimsonwolf_83 8d ago
Or you could listen to the companies making the vaccines about what their vaccines actually do.
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u/baithammer 8d ago
Or you could stop listening to misinformation, the companies involved and the researches are saying the exact opposite.
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u/No_Relationship4508 9d ago
I mean lose license, sure. But she injected saline. Essentially what she did was force people to take a placebo. Not like she injected something injurious... She just failed to do her job as directed.
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u/Frugal500 9d ago
Betrayal of trust though. Imagine it was chemo and everyone would be savage. People just go a bit nuts over covid.
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u/No_Relationship4508 9d ago
I agree, but I don't care if you believe in the COVID Vaxes or not... it's not chemo... it's a "vaccine" (not really, but sure). And its touted efficacy and safety hasn't aged well... But if you want to claim it's the same as any other vaccine.... what would you do with someone who injected saline instead of 6 flu shots? Eh... probably lose their license and some probation... same as what happened here. But somehow because it was COVID vax, everyone is acting like she's a monster and she "put people's lives at risk!"
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u/Frugal500 9d ago
I think deliberately giving you something instead of what you thought you were getting should be treated exactly the same, regardless of what you thought you were getting. The issue is that itâs up to the individual what they take, not the nurse.
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u/No_Relationship4508 9d ago
Agree, but I like to think about things pragmatically, and rationally. Not emotionally. What if someone spit in your food? You didn't ask for it. I don't know of any cases of hard jail time for someone doing that, which is arguably a lot more dangerous than injecting someone with saline instead of a covid vax.
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u/Shuriken_Dai 9d ago
I honestly can't tell how many people in these comments are trolling, and how many actually think what she did was right.
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u/IRBaboooon 9d ago
I miss when r/conspiracy actually had conspiracies and wasn't just an alt-right echo chamber
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u/Sapphire_01 9d ago
It still baffles me that people can work in medicine while also believing that medicine and science are lies.
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u/Supermonkeypilot22 9d ago
Is this about the covid âvaxâ? The one thatâs not really a vaccine by definition but a gene therapy? The one that has free thinkers that gets grouped with the real bozo antivaxxers? The one that has been proven to cause heart issues (on athletes no less) and other things worse than the disease can do to you? If anything she followed âDo No Harmâ because she was right that it would harm the patient more likely than help.
I have no idea what this story is about but I assume itâs self explanatory. Think kind of shit propagates more people who donât research more than headlines because of how itâs poorly crafted⌠sadly of course the willfully ignorant fall for poor craftsmanship all the time
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u/HecateRaven 9d ago
Gene therapy? What are your sources?
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u/Supermonkeypilot22 9d ago
The definitions of what a vax and gene therapy isâŚ
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u/HecateRaven 9d ago
So you are trolling.
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u/Supermonkeypilot22 9d ago
So you donât know how to google definitions? No Iâm not trolling itâs not hard to look into things like this. The fact there was absolutely no specific regulations when it was marketed should raise enough concern but again, nobody researches anything
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u/HecateRaven 9d ago
You pretend it's a gene therapy, I ask you for sources, where you find this information and you refuse to answer.
Because every sources I found say it isn't
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u/Supermonkeypilot22 9d ago edited 9d ago
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10342157/
Maybe look up sources that arenât towards what your bias/echo chamber is for once and youâd find something on the opposing side of you. You either didnât look anything up or are just terrible at doing it. âIs covid vax a gene therapyâ is all I looked up and found half a dozen immediately. Lazy mf
Hereâs two since it literally took me two minutes.
https://www.swfinstitute.org/news/83947/covid-mrna-vaccines-are-a-form-of-gene-therapy
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u/HecateRaven 7d ago
OK, I read it and something just pop up in my head
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.33398EC
Also this person Helen Banoun is a French biologist who was fact checked multiple times by French fact checkers for her lies about covid and the vaccine.
She is an antivaxx and really close to alt right movement in France.
But all she said was debunk.
So you just linked a debunked lier (pharmacist and biologist) who don't have knowledge about this vaccine and who don't work in the vaccine research field.
And it's just an opinion paper, not a peer reviewed one.
Absolutely no scientific value. I'm really sorry for you.
And I know that because I'm French and I searched a lot about how this vaccine works. I did sceptical thinking education back in time.
And to be balanced, I read the paper and even sent it to a friend of mine who works at the pasteur institue in France.
So... Do you have real sources and studies who are recognised by scientific community? Or are you just a believer of anything said by anyone? Real question.
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u/Supermonkeypilot22 7d ago edited 7d ago
Amazing how you say all this and have a fact checker link as your evidence. Thereâs literally no requirements to being a fact checker other than saying you are one. Itâs really not that hard to find things about myocarditis and âsudden death.â But itâs hell of an easy time to find things pushing it and saying it has no harm⌠which is more believable, a medical treatment thatâs completely safe or very dangerous? Both can be true. And they are both true. The risk and numbers of those affected are the problem. And who knows how much damage is on those who didnât see anything immediately. So easy to name someone a liar when the media is out on a mission. Why did Dr Robert Malone and Dr McCullough suddenly become âmisinformation doctorsâ when they were so closely into the making of it? Even the guy who patented the vax says itâs a gene therapy. But they called it a vaccine to not scare off people from getting it because most vaccines are generally harmless.
To say none of the above has ever happened is blatantly ignorant on how suppression works. You can find it with proper wording. Typical terms and searches that are most common yield the suppressed results. Change up how you look into it. Those two doctors were extremely reputable until they went against the narrative the government wanted to push. The same narrative that media who constantly lies and has been proven to lie and back up bad medical practices. Look into viox. Just that alone should make anything mainstream super questionable.
Medical practices do help people, but they are also predatory. Again, both things can be and are true. Semi relatable anecdote is that my (momâs and gfâs too) crohns is very bad, the things the doctors were âhelpingâ us with was only maintaining a weak state for us. Yes we were better off than going it on our own but the things I would bring up from Dr Berg and Dr Huberman were usually thrown out the window by anyone I saw⌠yet when I and my two chronies started doing what those two docs were saying to do, we felt so much better. Had to go in once a month or so for treatments and now I havenât gone in over 3 years since I started. My mom is worse off (and eats not the greatest) but even she sees the regular doctors maybe 1/4 of what she did. That being said, just because someone is in the medical field doesnât mean they are gonna be helpful or 100% honest. The doctor for my resection surgery insisted that if I didnât take meslemine that I wouldnât be able to live a normal life after surgery. I felt better two days after I stopped taking it and she left several messages when I didnât get my refill making it sound like I would die without saying it. I found out later that that prescription yields good money for those who prescribe it. Her saying I should consider it hard to pay out of pocket since the first try with insurance didnât work. She seemed very upset when it got approved. 20% paycut⌠oops
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u/HecateRaven 9d ago
Will read the first link and send it to a friend of mine who work at the pasteur institute.
The second one has no value as it's just a blog article written by someone who have no knowledge on medical research.
But only one opinion article on pubmed? Come on you can do better
And no, your first link is NOT a study, it's just opinion from only one person.
I will read but it has really low value in the scientific world. Also you said I have bias, maybe you should look at yourself. mRNA doesn't modify genome so it can't qualify for gene therapy :)
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u/HecateRaven 9d ago
Also, when I'm researching real medical information, I don't use Google but directly sites like pubmed. Google is not reliable
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u/Dave_Giantsbane 9d ago
How can you be a nurse and be anti vaccination? Considering they are required to get vaccinations to work
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u/Randomfrog132 9d ago
if only they vetted people before allowing them to work there.
"hey are you brain damaged?"
yes? gtfo lol
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u/Endevorite 9d ago
At least itâs better than a nurse in my hometown. This nurse was stealing fentanyl, but instead of using saline, was injecting straight tapwater.
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u/Grandkahoona01 9d ago
It's insane that she has only lost her license. What if someone died because they were vulnerable and thought they were protected? What about someone having to deal with long covid, impacting their future prospects and quality of life? Just because the saline does not cause direct harm doesn't make her crime victimless
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u/dontmindme001 9d ago
Ok it was saline lol. I fukin thought it was just full on salt + water put in a syringe.
Or else people are dead.
Either way. Pay the nurses and give them a less hostile environment.
I walked in to get items from the hospital cuz my mom is working there.
Its a nightmare and a horrible sight to see for my weak tolerance for other people's pain.
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u/djackson404 10d ago
Should be in prison for life without possibility of parole. Or perhaps capital punishment.
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u/Themurlocking96 10d ago
If just one of her patients die of Covid it should be considered 1st degree murder, itâs planned, thought out and acted upon and done repeatedly.
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u/Jnquester54 10d ago
If just one of those patients died of a disease they thought the were vaccinated against, she is not a legend. She is a murder. At least she should never be allowed back into the profession in any capacity. Shear negligence đĄđđ¤Śââď¸
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u/ArrowsSpecter 10d ago
how do you even be anti vax as a nurse??? you still have to go to medical school.to be one afaik and it sounds ridiculous to have that education and STILL be against them
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u/ElderBoard83 10d ago
I don't get it. Why is saltwater bad, exactly? What does it do? Or is this just a case of being a snake oil saleswoman?
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u/Akerlof 10d ago
When one requests a vaccine, when their insurance is billed for a vaccine, and they are injected with saline instead... that's fraud at a minimum. If they altered their behavior and exposed themselves to a higher risk of covid because they were told they had the vaccine, that's probably something more than fraud.
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u/RPB805 10d ago
Good for her for doing the right thing. Nobody should ever be subjected to government experiments. She's a hero in my book. #PureBloods #NoJabsAllowed
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u/disharmony-hellride 9d ago
grow up kiddo
there's no such thing as a pure blood
we are all dripping in toxins and microplastics but go off about mrna, which your body is already filled with at birth
yall can keep on cosplaying as some kind of warriors but the reality is you 'pure bloods' seem to die of covid a hell of a lot more than everyone else
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u/Hackslashstabthrust 10d ago
Dam. I dont like the covid vax but but but if you want it, you have a right to have it. Ffs this shit is what makes people think everyone not on "their" side is insane.
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u/RiffyWammel 10d ago
and i hope every single one of them sues her all the way to bankrupcy and joblessness
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u/Reggaeprince1984 10d ago
Saved them all from MyoCarditis but at least their chances of dying or transmission whereâŚ.. ah never mind
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u/Wolf_Watching 10d ago
How is this facepalm? So did all the doctors that injected people with the vaccine.
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u/ummmm_nahhh 10d ago
How many of those 8000 people died of Covid? Statistically probably none but if just one died she should be in jail
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u/Kholzie 10d ago
This is rage bait.
No arguement that medical malfeasance like this is atrocious.
But I get pissed off at malicious âjournalismâ. Whoever wrote that headline chose the word âsaltwaterâ in place of âsaline solutionâ on purpose to make it sound less medical and stoke a more emotional response.
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u/NornOfVengeance 10d ago
How many people's deaths is this crazy woman responsible for? Maybe murder charges are in order here.
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u/sean331hotmail 10d ago
This could be a good case study did the 8600 people have worse or better covid outcomes?
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