r/HubermanLab • u/Personalvintage • May 03 '24
Huberman on Jocko did not display extreme ownership. Nor did Jocko hold him to that standard. Episode Discussion
Hoping to have a serious discussion free of moralizing Karens and alt right incels who were both astroturfing here when the New York magazine article came out. He used the “extreme ownership” words himself and I think it was an abuse of the term. When asked about the article, he talked about the history of the pod, then went on and on about whether he skated for Venture. Then quickly addressed the cheating. I respect that he had the courage to address it at all but I would say he definitely minimized at very best.
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u/[deleted] May 03 '24
He presented himself as an honest person who limits dopamine spikes to 'the occasional slice of mango'. He's talked about the importance of honesty in relationships.
The story told us something of his character. Nobody would care about him sleeping with a bunch of women if he was either upfront about it or didn't preach the opposite (aside from the incels who elevate someone having sex to godlike status). His work has already been criticised for cherrypicking data and drawing conclusion from limited datasets. He sells supplements. If you want to ignore that and take him on faith that the data is good then go ahead, but most sensible people are going to wonder if he's truly objective or more focused on growing his audience and sponsorship revenue.
Look at the criticism of David Sinclair about how credible longevity advice can be if coming from the wrong person. Compare his massive list of sponsors to someone like Rhonda Patrick who has none and wonder if it compromises what he recommends and the content he pushes out.
The articles gave us more data about who he is. They contained red flags directly related to who he is on his podcast. You're free to ignore them or say they aren't relevant, but I'd say you're being naive at best.