r/HubermanLab • u/Personalvintage • May 03 '24
Huberman on Jocko did not display extreme ownership. Nor did Jocko hold him to that standard. Episode Discussion
Hoping to have a serious discussion free of moralizing Karens and alt right incels who were both astroturfing here when the New York magazine article came out. He used the “extreme ownership” words himself and I think it was an abuse of the term. When asked about the article, he talked about the history of the pod, then went on and on about whether he skated for Venture. Then quickly addressed the cheating. I respect that he had the courage to address it at all but I would say he definitely minimized at very best.
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u/Busy-Celery9647 May 03 '24
I didn’t watch the Jocko interview. I was kind of done with Huberman after Galpin and Conti. Those were excellent, along with a few other people with great ideas. But.. he had already begun to veer into more optimization bro audience capture and away from quality health and performance content, so, the truth is, I think he was already slipping into the culture wars by the time this piece came out.
Things were skewing a little right, a little alternative, a little weird, a little Jesus-y.. so, being attacked in what was kind of a #metoo-style piece kind of martyred him.. it has been largely this part of the culture wars who have been defending him. People like Fridman or others who claim to be center, but who are more well-described as anti-woke, and, I believe, would see no reason to apologize or claim wrong-doing at the hands of this type of article.
So, it puts him in a tricky spot. A man who people used to think was certainly about ethics and morality (unfairly so), turns out not to be (but did nothing illegal), is taken in by the right of center crowd (Christian moral values), and kiinnnnnd of apologizes for bad behaviour, while not giving the woke mob any reason to cheer.