r/HubermanLab • u/Personalvintage • May 03 '24

Huberman on Jocko did not display extreme ownership. Nor did Jocko hold him to that standard. Episode Discussion

Hoping to have a serious discussion free of moralizing Karens and alt right incels who were both astroturfing here when the New York magazine article came out. He used the “extreme ownership” words himself and I think it was an abuse of the term. When asked about the article, he talked about the history of the pod, then went on and on about whether he skated for Venture. Then quickly addressed the cheating. I respect that he had the courage to address it at all but I would say he definitely minimized at very best.

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u/Personalvintage May 03 '24

Point is he didn’t limit it to longevity. He branched out from that topic and his behavior is relevant.

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u/tombm91 May 03 '24

To be clear, I think his behavior is wrong.

That being said, that's a bad take. Like someone mentioned before, if we found out he was an alcoholic, his alcohol episodes wouldn't be any less valid.

His episodes on relationships were data based, and if I'm not mistaken, mostly with other experts.

The fact he cheated doesn't make those episodes any less valid. Still important topics for discussion, that are very relevant to longevity.

Despite the gravity of this situation, we can't expect him to follow every thing that his guests say should be done (nor data he presents in his episodes for that matter).

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u/Personalvintage May 03 '24

These are good arguments. Can’t lie. My post is about the concept of extreme ownership and Huberman claimed to take extreme ownership. I don’t think he did. But yeah, I see the validity in what you said.

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u/tombm91 May 03 '24

I haven't watched the episode to be transparent, but if you're correct the one who should be criticized is Jocko for not holding him to the standard HE preaches.