r/northernireland • u/Mafiadons Lurgan • Jan 26 '18
Subreddit Announcement.
We have decided to implement Automod on the sub.
Accounts must be of a certain age and have more than a certain amount of karma to avoid auto deletion.
One of the drawbacks of this will be throwaway accounts.
I've looked into it and automod only acts once on a post so if you need to use a throwaway for whatever reason, pm the mod team and we can approve your post.
In the time it's taken me to type this it has already removed a post by /u/kincorabouncer
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u/32_4_life Feb 03 '18 edited Feb 03 '18
The top comment on this thread has been deleted. Do you see the irony in that? How about bringing in Mods that actually want to do the job instead of being a bunch of lazy bitches employing autobot???
EDIT: P.S. Fuck you mods for deleting my first post to this sub!!!
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u/ciaran036 Belfast Jan 27 '18 edited Jan 27 '18
Is there even an issue that warrants this? Deterring newcomers isn't just a minor flaw, it's a fundamental problem. I don't think this is necessary. Why can't you just do the modding instead of relying on some bot that will just block people without really knowing anything about them.
What about someone that arrives specially to this subreddit as newcomer? They get instantly banned?
This won't work as it penalises people who have objectionable or unpopular views. I want to hear the unpopular opinions just as much the normal ones.
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Jan 28 '18
It's hard work to get negative karma on a new account, that's the long and the short of it. Every time you post a comment you are putting yourself +1. To maintain negative karma you need to expressly post a lot of unpopular stuff, and to piss off everybody the comments would have to be either nonsense or purposefully annoying. It also complies with reddiquette, we're not "supposed" to downvote simply because we disagree.
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u/clairebones Bangor Jan 27 '18
It won't ban people, and it won't hide individual comments that get low karma. And we're 100% looking to review it reasonably often to figure out what setup works best. But we're getting weekly threads and almost daily complaints about not "dealing with" the trolls, and it's not like banning them does anything at all.
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u/CrashGordon94 Jan 26 '18
Occasional lurker only but just wondering why this instead of just banning trolls?
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u/clairebones Bangor Jan 27 '18
Basically, because it takes them all of 5 minutes to create a new account, and we don't get paid to chase them around lol. So it's not particularly effective to ban them - especially if they're throwaway accounts anyway.
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u/CrashGordon94 Jan 27 '18
Alright, fair enough I suppose. Didn't realise it was an alt-spammer kind of thing.
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u/Arfed Jan 26 '18
Not a bad idea, but can it be relaxed after a while so as not to deter Reddit newcomers?
Turn it on for a while when there's noticeable trolling - then a while later, turn it off so that newcomers aren't deterred.
It's likely that e.g. people may come to this sub occasionally, to ask questions about NI - and often this would be done with new accounts I'd imagine - so you want to avoid creating hurdles for these people, as this sub is a valuable place for such information/queries.
Such people will not jump through hoops, to ask the mods for permission, if they find their posts getting deleted - they will just not bother posting and never come back, after the first deletion - so you want to avoid permanently having hurdles like this in place.
All moderation like this (particularly auto moderation), should be very very carefully considered - and implemented for only the most limited of time, to avoid affecting genuine posters.
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u/StripeyMiata Lisburn Jan 26 '18
I just looked and I have 38178 Karma.
I really need to get a life.
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u/SpinDaWheels Jan 26 '18
The fuck!? This sub is near dead half the time without this bullshit! Most of the interesting discussions and funny posts are made by new accounts. I enjoyed this sub for it's lack of rules. This is some primary school grade shite you've come up with here. Get back in your cave and fuck off Mr Rule Maker, Fun taker!
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Jan 26 '18 edited Mar 22 '18
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u/Mafiadons Lurgan Jan 26 '18
They are "fluid" values as we find out what works best and adjust just, wont post the current settings as it will let people plan for the date. Already in this thread alone people are commenting that "there's mods? Lolol" and "fuck off with your rules" so itll be a bit of trial and error over the next few weeks. Id consider removing the account age in favour of account must have positive karma to post for example so we'll tweak it as time passes.
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Jan 26 '18
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u/MoeKara Jan 28 '18
Spuds needs attention that much he has already created a few new accounts.
Speaking if which, were you lucky enough to get a PM from GfromBallymuck? Certain it's him, he's moved to PM trolling so he can't get downvoted off.
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Jan 26 '18
have more than a certain amount of karma
There goes anyone with a controversial opinion.
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u/DarkRoland Belfast ✈ New York Feb 06 '18
Like the opinion of a Protestant??? Sure who wants that anyway.
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u/iNEEDheplreddit Jan 26 '18
No chance mate. I'll be here for a while bwfore i get blocked.
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Jan 28 '18
Aye, but you're a geg as well as a massive bellend
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u/iNEEDheplreddit Jan 28 '18
And ur a fruit. So what?
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Jan 28 '18
You'll skim the filter, that's what. Even you're not enough of a tool to harvest negative karma
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u/Mafiadons Lurgan Jan 26 '18
It would need to be incredibly controversial. This isn't just 'negative' karma. This is well into the negative and not just on one post.
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Jan 26 '18
-100 isn't it? You could rack that up easily with just two comments giving a pro-life and pro-traditional marriage opinion.
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u/MoeKara Jan 28 '18
I think no matter how many downvotes you get, only the first 11 count against your profile. I could be wrong, but I remember someone explaining why the EA PR team didnt have -670k downvotes after their big Battlefront 2 slip-up.
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u/the_messer Omagh Jan 26 '18
Practising Catholic here. looks around in shifty manner, waiting to get booted
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u/CocoPopsKid Belfast Jan 26 '18
boooooo
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u/Mafiadons Lurgan Jan 26 '18
I've adjusted it to less than that to filter the initial trolls. But will reassess if it's blocking too much.
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Jan 26 '18
Fair play. That's Spuds fucked!
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u/Mafiadons Lurgan Jan 26 '18
Confirmed.
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u/ManInTweedBlazer Jan 26 '18 edited Jan 26 '18
If this is in fact true, Id like to offer a few words of condolence. Spuds was not his real name. He was, however, a legitimate private detective. He partook in a sub on actual private detectives and always had words of encouragement. I neede to work in another state and it happened to be where Spuds has his agency. He let me use his license number while I was in Connecticut and couldn't have been more accommodating. He was like a cross between Pete Blaber and Waylon Jennings. He had a heart of gold but a temper like a drunken sailor on shore leave. When he said he was setting up shop in Ireland I thought he was a buffoon. I told him he may as well start growing watermelons on the north pole. Talk about throwing good money after bad. But once he made up his mind, it was impossible to change it. You're always welcome in the detective sub. And remember, I trust you with my life but not with my wife you dirty dog!
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Jan 27 '18
Haha, what a pile of absolute tripe.
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u/HairyIrishBrute Dundalk Jan 27 '18
No reason to be butt-hurt. You'll get over it hopefully.
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Jan 27 '18
"And I will now start spamming the fuck out of yew with pics of all the guns and ammo I own. Its going to be fucking brilliant. Like a Nuclear Bomb dropped on BeaverCleaverVille. Yew fucking watch"
PM from- GfromBallymuck
That's at least 5 accounts now that this headcase Spuds owns. Jesus, what a clown.
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Jan 31 '18 edited Jan 31 '18
7 at my last count.
GfromBallymuck
HairyIrishBrute
KinkoraBouncer
HollywoodHustler
SpudsMalarky
CollinsDevoy
HibernianWarrior
edit: 8. How could I forget old QueefusMcGhee.
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u/GfromBallymuck Feb 03 '18
Listen to this lad. LOL. The paranoia runs so deep his fantasy world has become his only reality. Hopefully someone on this sub that cares will reach out to him. Hes in desperate need of help
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u/GfromBallymuck Jan 27 '18
Hmmmmmmmmmm. Sounds like we have a lad that's into conspiracy theories. Tell us your thoughts on the Kennedy assassination, Sir.
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u/SpinDaWheels Jan 26 '18
"Spuds was not his real name" Yea, no shit Sherlock. Lol!
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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '18 edited May 17 '19
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